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Right, this meme, gacked from several people, looks like fun. Though like

baranduin I have to warn that I won't necessarily be able to answer all ten questions for every fandom. I will also modify by saying go ahead and name a fandom even if you don't know that I know it, and I'll do my best.

Name a fandom you know I know and I'll tell you:
01. The first character I first fell in love with
02. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
03. The character everyone else loves that I don't
04. The character I love that everyone else hates
05. The character I used to love but don't any longer
06. The character I would shag anytime
07. The character I'd want to be like
08. The character I'd slap
09. A pairing that I love
10. A pairing that I despise

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Dude, the Fandom is so lynching you as soon as somebody else stops by and sees this comment.

Seriously, that's gotta be really hard. I don't think I could stand being in this fandom if I didn't adore Frodo. I would get so frickin' annoyed with everyone on my f-list. You must be a very strong person.

I hasten to add that I do not dislike Pippin. I loved him right away in the movie and all. It's just that I'm big on the angst and in a lot of fic Pippin is mostly "cute" and "nice" and I'm not as into that. I still like him a lot, I just, you know.

I have been waiting to get lynched! Man, that was better than getting flamed! *takes a moment to relax after all of that excitement* That is to say, ;D

It isn't that I don't adore him -- but I don't quite love him the way I once did. Actually, it's probably connected to that Frodo/Sam thing -- how I blame overzealous fans for how I feel about the pairing, now, shoving their opinions down my throat and not really caring that I've opinions of my own -- well, yeah, that kind of stressed my feelings for Sam and Frodo, too.

And you know, I'll read fluff sometimes, and I have comfort fic even though I didn't know I did, but I'm really not here for the "cute" and "nice" Pippin fics. And he was alright in the movie (really liked him in RotK), but I have a lot of nitpicks -- I prefer Pippin in the book, and the way a lot of people characterize him... honestly, I have no idea what they've been reading to get him to act the way they'll have him act. In the end, really, there aren't a lot of people who really get him, I think. Who understand that there's more to him than "cute" and "nice". (Though, he is pretty adorable. heh)

This should be where I add, then, that I do not hate Frodo (despite the lies you have been spewing elsewhere, snrk). I just don't love him the same way as I used to, though there is still love there -- and I blame other people, and the way they write him, on how I feel about him now.

I think a rereading (of the books, of course) would probably change that, though. I have been meaning to do that for a, ah, while, now.

I do like to talk, it seems.

:)

Well, that is a sad thing. I feel like fanfic almost always just makes my love for the characters grow and in particular has made me love Frodo more. I guess in particular the ones where he gets in really horrible situations and is frightened but is nevertheless his strong and determined self as he was in the books. Doesn't hurt that he's totally frickin' gorgeous all the time. But then Pippin is beautiful too.

Still, I can see how it could happen.

Then sometimes I see you say something like "This author is one of the few people who get Pippin right," and it intimidates the heck out of me. I guess I've read enough Frodo fic at this point that I've seen all kinds of characterizations and liked most of them (sometimes get annoyed by too much saintliness and passivity, but I'll probably read anyway!), so I know that a lot of people don't like to see Frodo-as-victim, but hell, I'll do it anyway. I've got options.

Pippin though, I just don't know. The few times I've tried writing about him I kept thinking Dana is gonna hate me omg! Isn't that silly? But I guess not having read as much about him myself...

As far as the movies, I liked him best in ROTK too, but I'm curious to know what parts specifically you liked and what parts especially from the first two movies bugged you.

If you don't mind talking some more.

They are both gorgeous. You're right, that doesn't hurt. *grin* And I am very fond of Frodo/Pippin, but I suppose that doesn't really count. And I -- well, I've been in one fandom or another for long enough that other people really can sour what I like and don't like. I've only been doing the fandom thing since 97 or so, but I've got to the point where, to protect my sanity, I really just need to like what I want to like and do my best to not let others sour what that happens to be. I've let it happen in this fandom, and I have got rather attached to Pippin, you know, and I don't want to let go.

Also, I know you haven't written him all that much, but I do like the Pippin that you've written. Dana doesn't hate you! She doesn't want to intimidate you, either... and she should probably stop talking about herself in the third person, heh.

As for Pippin in the movies... there are just parts. I'd have to sort out my thoughts, and I don't know if I'll get to it soon, but I'll put a post together and, er, post it for you when I can. The short form of it would be: he's not an idiot and I would rather like it if people didn't think he was one, because of the movie. And, hey, I know people who think that. Just like there are those who think Frodo is a wuss, thanks to the movie -- I know people who think that, too.

So, if you don't mind waiting, I'll put you a proper post together on the subject. Don't know when I'll get to it, but I will.

That reminds me I told you I was going to send you that conspiracy ficlet that I still haven't gone back to look at. *frowns* You're busy now though, it can wait, yeah?

I have a long fic that Claudia's betaing for me now. It's all about Frodo, of course, but there is a Pippin POV chapter and I kept thinking of you and whether you'd disapprove, whether you'd think I was making him too much of a wuss.

I know it sounds funny for me to pin all of that on you. I do feel the same kind of thing about Frodo in a way (so like I'd ask C., Do you think he's being too weak? Do you think he's giving in too easily?), just that there it's more of a collective thing, from my hearing over and over again from so many different fans that they like Frodo being tough. Whereas you're the only real Pippin fan I know, so I associate the feeling directly with you.

Sorry if that didn't make a lot of sense.

Anyway, I realize that he's not dumb, but I do love those parts in the third movie where they show that he's really very young and kind of lost. When he gets separated from Merry and then when he's alone with Denethor especially, how frightening it is for him but how he gets through that (and that's what I played with a little in the fic I keep talking about but not posting).

You should send me that conspiracy ficlet whenever you feel like it. You know, whenever you get to look at it. *grin*

I have a long fic that Claudia's betaing for me now. It's all about Frodo, of course, but there is a Pippin POV chapter and I kept thinking of you and whether you'd disapprove, whether you'd think I was making him too much of a wuss.

Well, either you should let me see that chapter (if you don't mind sending it, disconnected, that way), or I am going to have to wait until you post it. Either way, this means more Pippin for Dana, and I rather like that, you know? I'd like to see what you're doing with him and his POV, anyhow.

And you needn't worry, because you and associating your Pippin-concern with me -- oh, that makes a lot of sense. This is why, even if I don't get stories betaed, I like getting fan-specific responses on things before I worry about getting them posted. Like, if I ever manage to finish one of my interspecies WIPs, I'd definitely want Claudia to give it a look before I go and post it. Actually, even if it wasn't a Frodo-pairing. But especially if it was a Frodo-pairing.

I do love those parts in the third movie where they show that he's really very young and kind of lost.

I love that too! Especially since movie-Denethor seems especially freaky, you know. (Which would have to be why I like him. huh)

This little fic -- I want to see it. If I smile and flutter my lashes at you, would that help?

About the ficlet, I'll take care of it this week, but last month I decided I needed to check the books for some timeline issue, and then finals came. I'm staying at my parents' place right now and the books are at my apartment across town.

But I like your idea of asking a fan of a specific character or situation for responses before posting publicly. Actually my most enjoyable beta experience ever was with my very first fic, which I'd e-mailed to

lilybaggins. Her tastes were just so specific and she was so honest about what she wanted that it practically wrote itself.

Movie!Denethor is so freaky omg! Whenever I watch the part where he makes Pippin kiss his ring it totally gives me the creeps (but I kind of like it).

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